Subject	It's quite obvious..
Posted by	90GoldZ on September 05, 2011 at 1:59 PM
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In Reply To	GoldZ, who are business partners of AMS??? posted by Zski on September 05, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Message	Z1. The few guys on their payroll to defend them...the guys that buy products from others strictly for copying..jswingswing is the only defender/buyer we know of, but there may be others..lol The whole copying thing has been around for a while, way back before I even had a Z more than likely..back when Z1 was running the duping of the 300degree fuel rails and other stuff..which arubadave uncovered..Same thing with Coz.. It's just getting way out of hand now, with AMS' presence... I wish that our efforts to try and stop this would bring down such company, but they the lack of noob knowledge keeps them up and running, there is no possible way to spread the message to every single Z'er, or stop them from being cheap.
Follow Ups	Has anyone noticed Chinada's new product? - 90GoldZ 13:14:22 09/04/11 .... - jschrauwen 13:56:03 09/04/11 Quick to react/defend, huh troll? (n/m) - Aqualung 13:58:21 09/04/11 umm nooo. - twin3037 14:04:21 09/04/11 For once your right. SPL = Quality Parts> AMS = Crap Parts!! (n/m) - Zski 14:57:55 09/04/11 Why aren't you banned yet? (n/m) - Jackie 20:47:36 09/04/11 You < 0 - BigTDogg (MA) 21:16:47 09/05/11 Actually, I think the AMS version was released first, but - zgene4 13:57:16 09/04/11 I dont know exact dates but - twin3037 14:09:31 09/04/11 It's a copy of the Cusco .Driftworks , - ArubaDave 14:15:25 09/04/11 +1 (n/m) - Pilot.P (NZ) 16:09:57 09/04/11 Re: Has anyone noticed Chinada's new product? - ubermiach 14:31:28 09/04/11 You do realize AMS does not represent Canada as a whole. (n/m) - Adamo 15:38:20 09/04/11 Deport Vuk, jschrauwen, and AMS as a whole to china & - samsungz 15:53:01 09/04/11 Lol, I don't think that's within my powers but I still don't - Adamo 16:04:24 09/04/11 Chinada= AMS's part of the country.. - 90GoldZ 17:02:43 09/04/11 FYI: Toronto sucks in general, just ask Leafs fans (n/m) - Aqualung 17:08:34 09/04/11 ..... - jschrauwen 16:10:15 09/04/11 Can you tell the difference... - 90GoldZ 17:03:49 09/04/11 The v1 Hicas eliminator *is* from Midori Seibi - kuah@splparts.com 09:25:40 09/06/11 I tried to tell him this on numerous occasions... - Aqualung 15:50:08 09/06/11 Agreed, John is not really interested in the truth - kuah@splparts.com 16:14:36 09/06/11 The AMS is a copy of a different product - FuerGrissa 16:21:36 09/04/11 You do know that Vuk doesn't do anything with them - s3trios 16:26:55 09/04/11 Fail on my behalf.. - 90GoldZ 17:05:01 09/04/11 Strictly a coincidence, I'm sure...... - SilverTwin(OH) 17:22:51 09/04/11 Wow, makes you wonder. (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 18:06:47 09/04/11 I can't wait for his response. (n/m) - Evan(CA) 19:03:05 09/04/11 And Ash thought you were kidding when you wrote this post-> - Aqualung 19:07:06 09/04/11 Yeah Tim..just a coincidence.. - 90GoldZ 21:55:15 09/04/11 Better yet, they copies Ash's 2.5" IC piping ---> - induetime 17:25:39 09/04/11 Adam, i'm surprised it hasn't been copied already - vulcanrush 17:41:15 09/04/11 They would never sell them that cheap, they like to gouge - HighPsi (NorCal) 18:11:07 09/04/11 even at 400, let's say - vulcanrush 18:22:48 09/04/11 They would sell them for $400 IF - induetime 19:04:37 09/04/11 i trust you, 400 was just an arbitrary low-ball number (n/m) - vulcanrush 19:14:34 09/04/11 I still wouldn't invest my money on AMS.. (n/m) - 90GoldZ 22:01:25 09/04/11 Wow, unbelievable. - Wright (Ca) 17:50:32 09/04/11 I've also wondered that as well, not encouraging it by any - samsungz 18:06:04 09/04/11 NOT ONLY THAT!!!!!! >>>> AMS coping ASH-SPEC - Zski 19:19:15 09/04/11 They are not even trying to hide it anymore!!!!! (n/m) - Zski 19:20:11 09/04/11 um, no. (n/m) - ali300zx 21:09:58 09/04/11 Signs that it is coming, just add black anodizing - SilverTwin(OH) 20:25:25 09/04/11 Basically if jschrauwen buys it, AMS copies it soon after - Aqualung 20:45:01 09/04/11 those are not even 2.5in, - FuerGrissa 01:13:56 09/05/11 Doesnt appear to have any recirc fittings either. (n/m) - madscientist222 11:37:29 09/05/11 Wow. Just wow. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 21:51:27 09/04/11 WOW... - 90GoldZ 22:03:33 09/04/11 Please Advise!!! AMS affiliates???? (n/m) - Zski 22:06:41 09/04/11 = Z32 Innovations - basically douchebags that Vuk throws - LitlElvis 10:48:58 09/05/11 ^^what brett said.. - 90GoldZ 13:11:11 09/05/11 GoldZ, who are business partners of AMS??? - Zski 13:47:57 09/05/11 It's quite obvious.. - 90GoldZ 13:59:12 09/05/11 Nobody searches anymore... but jschrauwen, honzrr, kosovo - BigTDogg (MA) 09:10:17 09/06/11 I'm glad I bought Ashspec, too. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 22:25:13 09/04/11 You gotta be kidding me! I usually keep quiet on this stuff - Mr.Stacy 22:19:21 09/04/11 This company is just plain greedy, I've never bought AMS - toykoz32 00:45:29 09/05/11 their fall will be a particularly entertaining one - LJZTT 13:22:50 09/05/11 IMHO that expansion is really just a sham. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 21:50:42 09/06/11 I probably shouldn't say anything... but here goes... - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:07:30 09/04/11 For the record this is my own personal statement - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:10:29 09/04/11 Are the advertised Ashspec ECU and fuel controller on AMS's - Evan(CA) 23:22:10 09/04/11 No They are not but I do not believe they are copies either - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:45:21 09/04/11 Notice the price of the ECU Upgrade - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 23:48:27 09/04/11 So what does that say for those of us who buy your products - jlag 23:52:10 09/04/11 For those of you who bought the first few sets of pipes - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 00:00:45 09/05/11 One of those sets was not corrected however... - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 00:03:31 09/05/11 ...jswingswing's? (n/m) - 90GoldZ 13:19:39 09/05/11 You guys are smart enough to figure that out on your own - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 16:58:40 09/05/11 He and AMS have gotten called out on aus300zx.com as well. - BoneZ (MD) 23:21:43 09/05/11 I've dealt with Ash for many year and he has always been - Mr.Stacy 00:14:41 09/05/11 I've been buying from Ashspec for 10yrs and - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:52:09 09/05/11 I've only dealt with Ash & Nick ---> - 90GoldZ 13:19:06 09/05/11 there's always a certain amount of risk being taken... - spicyZ 05:52:13 09/05/11 I thought so. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 02:41:10 09/05/11 Out of principle, I demanded that AMS remove all > - LitlElvis 10:42:23 09/05/11 Thank you Brett for being one of the TRUE innovators - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:07:18 09/05/11 Good. And to second Nick, there are enough good people who - BoneZ (MD) 15:37:38 09/05/11 And yet you still distribute to and through Z1? (n/m) - ni[X]it 18:55:15 09/05/11 Yes I do, I don't believe Z1 "is" AMS/Z32 innovations (n/m) - LitlElvis 13:38:43 09/06/11 FWIW: The key 2a successful business that survives long term - The Devils Z 08:40:20 09/05/11 Enter Greg, Seb, and Kyle - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 10:50:40 09/05/11 Ok ... The meaning behind the post was the relationships - The Devils Z 06:39:36 09/06/11 I guess I'm used to people pointing out our customer service - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:19:23 09/06/11 I personally will say Thank You to Ash-spec for - Boosted1 09:18:33 09/05/11 well said (n/m) - aliaZ 09:22:49 09/05/11 good for you guys (n/m) - LJZTT 13:26:57 09/05/11 Golf clap (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:13:30 09/05/11 Well said. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 14:08:20 09/06/11 Yep. (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:19:32 09/05/11 Anyone noticed that jschrauwen stopped posting in this - Only1Z 11:16:22 09/05/11 His hands and mouth are busy pleasuring Vuk... (n/m) - Aqualung 13:17:18 09/05/11 Yep. (n/m) - 90GoldZ 13:20:11 09/05/11 Re: Anyone noticed that jschrauwen stopped posting in this - aliaZ 13:59:53 09/05/11 Coz of "Concept Z Performance" is doing the same thing. (n/m) - ni[X]it 18:52:30 09/05/11 From what I've seen, his is an original design - Stadsport (PHX) 22:36:50 09/05/11 The IC piping, yes, but he copies products in general. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:37:29 09/06/11 Believe it or not... it was a copy of the original> - Nick (ASH-SPEC) 11:17:35 09/06/11
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